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Message 1852 - Posted: 27 Nov 2010, 14:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 1851.  

If you can read German, take a look at the homepage from time to time, the top results shown there are automatically updated almost in realtime.

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Message 1853 - Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 12:44:31 UTC

I would like to play around with the radio messages. With these values (message 9 from TJM in this thread) I could decode the KEJNQ message by hand:

UKW: B
Wheel order: 253
Stecker: AD BH FG IJ KN LZ MR OS PW QV
Rings: AJE
Message key: ITZ


What are the machine settings from the homepage?

m3_wrmkx102_2: score: 2065217 settings: B:HA:XQO:412:AMBGCJDZEOFNHKIRLPQSTX

My guess:

UKW: B
Wheel order: 412
Stecker: AM BG CJ DZ EO FN HK IR LP QS TX
Rings: ???
Message key: ???


"XQO" is either the "Rings" or the "Message key". But in "HA" one character is missing, i think.

Can you help me? Other tips for decoding? Grubix.
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Message 1855 - Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 20:31:01 UTC
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HA is the rings setting, middle and right. XQO is the key, also known as starting position.
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Message 1856 - Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 11:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 1855.  

HA is the rings setting, middle and right.
Thank you. But I can not set the left ring to nothing. I can adjust each ring from A to Z. With "HA" I do not have the setting for the left ring.

I have tried out all the values from A to Z for the left ring, but for the "WRMKX" message I do not get the result from the main home page. As I said, with the values from post 9, I was able to decipher the "KEJNQ" message. The Enigma machine works, but the settings of the homepage I can not interpret correctly.

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Message 1859 - Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 12:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 1856.  
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These settings surely worked for me, take a look here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWm4eo2r7g

Btw, on the video you can see that I mistyped one letter, so I pushed the right wheel one step back and tried again.
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Message 1862 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 14:42:03 UTC
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Thank you for the quick reply and the nice video. :-)

On the video, I could see my problem. First, you use the ring setting "AHA." That's what I did. But:

I have the WRMKX radio message from Frode's site.
"WRMKX IWRZK XKSNY PZZDQ XGLYB UBSUX TPBJV SWRNU HAOUC DUAWE NTBLQ OKNHS FLIRD NRTAL SAFQZ NPRQA ILXTM TNBIH MALKO DKRAD TQJTC WVWIJ IJFTA MNGQY GJREU GNXIB XHWUW WLJYK L"

The first 5 letters "Kenngruppe" i have skipped and decrypts the message. So I did it also with the "KEJNQ" message. That worked. In the video I've seen that you are not typing the message from the beginning. You start with the letter 22 (GLYBUB...). This confuses me very much.

Without this information it was impossible for me to achieve the same result.

Thanks, Grubix.


ps: I hope I do not disturb, because I've written here in "News". You can move it into a other thread.
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Message 1863 - Posted: 1 Dec 2010, 16:17:37 UTC - in response to Message 1862.  

Take a look here:

http://www.enigmaathome.net/download/m3_wrmkx102_2

This is only the part of text from the WRMKX, not the entire message, it's the actual workunit's ciphertext for wrmkx102_2 WUs. The second number in the WU name is the text length.

For various reasons which have been explained in other threads already, usually it's easier to attack part of the message than the entire text at once. It was proved already here by the break of KEJNQ, the first pass done on the entire message completely failed, while much later one of the additional passes on message split into two pieces broke the message.


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Message 1866 - Posted: 2 Dec 2010, 14:39:40 UTC - in response to Message 1863.  

Take a look here:

http://www.enigmaathome.net/download/m3_wrmkx102_2
I saw this in the video, all problems solved. :-)

Many thanks for the help, now I can try a little decipher...

Bye, Grubix.
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Message 1868 - Posted: 9 Dec 2010, 16:28:55 UTC

How Can I see this video.

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Message 1869 - Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 1:11:56 UTC - in response to Message 1868.  

It was linked in plain text above, but not hyperlinked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWm4eo2r7g
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Message 1874 - Posted: 13 Dec 2010, 16:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 1869.  

Thanks a lot!!!
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Message 1976 - Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 16:48:46 UTC

Why take so much time to break the last encrypted code, so the 2 fisrt were broken so fast?
I feel I'm loosing the cpu time of my pc... but I gonna keep running enigma till the webpage says the 3 codes was broken.
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Message 1977 - Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 20:46:00 UTC

I think that you didn't notice that we have given up on the last naval message, at least until someone will come with a good idea for next attack.
Right now the server handles M3 messages one by one, so far only one has been broken.

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Message 1982 - Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 23:03:00 UTC - in response to Message 1977.  


Any idea where we are now ?

How many % of total number of permutations/keys to go ?

I suppose there is ONLY finite number of those "keys".

Are we working on one message or several of them (how many) ?


It's a bit frustrating to see so many CPU years "invested" in this project and only one (three ?) messages broken.

I'm begining to wonder whether I'm wasting my CPU time ...


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Message 1983 - Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 9:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 1982.  

Please remember, that the unbroken messages were attacked already in the past by guys from cryptocellar.org. Their software broken a lot but still failed on many others, and these are the messages we're trying to break. Since the previous attacks have failed, it is safe to assume that these messages are tougher than average.
Since direct attack on a full text will most probably fail (but it's tried anyway), the server uses different strategy: messages are split in parts (helps a lot with messages that have missing letters, garbles etc), each part is assigned to a couple of dictionaries. Sometimes the server even tries to substitute each of the possible 26 letters in a place where a missing letter is marked. That's a lot of work to do before giving up on a message.

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Message 2073 - Posted: 18 Jun 2011, 10:53:33 UTC

i cannot help think that although it might be right, i feel that this interpritation is incorrect. why would a message about just two truck find its way into the mid atlantic when this has nothing at all to do with a wolf pack at sea.
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Message 2078 - Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 16:10:20 UTC

@caralu74, Dundo and Bob.

I belive that all of us will have a great success ahead, because already have decode the 3 original massages of the project, I’m wrong???

At first, I’m work in SETI@HOME, but at today, no one, have search something, but none of them, have stopped work. I work in Spinhenge@home, at today, no search nothing yet, sometimes, I participate in Collatz Conjecture and there, they still work and making many data’s.

For me, this project “Enigma@home”, is the project that have make more results, I wish that the results would be in technology area, like Spinhenge@home, but, I contribute to the history, for now =)

Have been done just one year, since we have break one code, we don’t go break another too fast.

Thanks a lot.

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Message 2080 - Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 19:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 2078.  


Have been done just one year, since we have break one code, we don’t go break another too fast.

Not necessarily, it is all a matter of chance. We might brake another message in one year, but it could also be tomorrow.
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Message 2101 - Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 9:47:59 UTC

hi all
i saw that text here and i just wanted to let u know this is german what is written there i can try to translate it for u but my english isnt perfect but i will give it a try ;)

die(the)von(from)kolonneabteilung(convoydivision)yfenf(i think that means five)neundrei(ninethree)kommandierten(command) dio(dont know)lawtkraetwagen(trucks )fuenutonnxtslcbygvhayc(dont know)taqtakdayywlypo(dont know)

to me it seems like someone that that dont know German perfect tryed to write it,like an american or russian or english ,in the words like yfenf or lawtkraetwagen are the letters on the wrong location but if u look at it u see the right word i try to get the rest in a good shape i think there are some more words and translate it then later.
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Message 2102 - Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 10:07:10 UTC
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oh i didnt saw that post under that from the other guy because that is the rest of the message in mostly right german words

die(the)von(from)kolonneabteilung(convoydivision)fuenfneundrei(fiveninethree)kommandierten(command)zwo(two)lawtkraetwagen(trucks)fuenutonnen(five tons)sind sofort(are immediately)zum(to)pakz(dontknow)gruppen(groups)nj(dont know)

so that looks pretty much better and the words a really german in the other decoded plaintext i saw some german words too but at other words the letters are very disorganised but i will give it a try later ;)

maybe we on the way to the Amberroom ( Bernsteinzimmer ) hehe
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